Whether it was his '90s group Company Flow, his solo stuff or his work with Killer Mike in their group Run the Jewels, it seems that El-P has been putting in work forever.

The veteran MC recently sat down with Talib Kweli on the Black Star member's People’s Party podcast, and beginning at the 49:15 mark he talked about what it's like being a white rapper in hip hop.

"I always found it a little distasteful to talk about or to put myself in any type of light that might insinuate that there was this struggle that I had because I was white [and] I was trying to get into rap," explained El-P. "If I hadn’t had rap music, I don’t know, as a middle-class white kid, how long it would have taken me to be exposed to the truth. It helped in the lifting of the veil. I don't know how long it would have taken me, if I didn't have rap music, to realize there was a whole hella a lot of bullsh*t."

What do you think about what El-P's said?